Largest shawl in Russia, world record, 20x20 meters

The article translates that's the largest shawl in the world.
https://rg.ru/2017/10/15/reg-pfo/v-orenburge-predstavili-puhovyj-platok-ploshchadiu-400-kvadratnyh-metrov.html

From other articles about the summary:
20x20 meters, 46 kilos of yarn

it's machine made by Orenshal factory

Orenburg museum exhibition. KAL Russian way

Many if you know that I keep a large backlog of patterns, many of them I’ll have no time in my life to make myself. And many told me, show your Russian empire. Why did I hold on that? Because to get to the shawl like that one needs to be trained and have the hand, gauge, yarn set to get to one of these, and the knitting school needs to be beneficial to get on 1000+ size in fine gauges. And be a dino of sorts when folk stopped doing it because of financial reason was not too much fun to think of it either… royal lace of Russia was gone. I mean it. “WAS”. Because I have now materials and what is most important people to pass this on. It is difficult for me to bring the past of revolution and red terror times.
This is how our conversation with Ekaterina Godovova has started, better to say it was with Irina Bushuhina from Orenburg museum first.This is Russian Empire. the shawl is 3-color or white. over 1000 stitches a row. and if you can do something like that and make it in 2m range I sure want to talk to you as well, because … there are not many of folk has left who are capable of making royal lace of Russia. This shawl is our KAL with Ekaterina this year.

So there was year long KAL Orenburg way going on that I was not talking about. Exhibition in Orenburg museum has opened on 7-th. same day as winter Olympic games :)
Ekaterina and I had a bit of year long KAL. And then she and after that museum folk banged “ok, nuf hiding, send your shawl our way, would you”. So here it is, Cranes went abroad with another stole, bunch of patterns went in form of charts. Entire 4 seasons series in presented on this exhibition. Her students work when she taught at Orenburg school of Arts. She is Olga Fedorova successor. When we talk about Olga students, here is the level of work and that’s how such level represents itself on Orenburg museum level.

this is 4 seasons Autumn in 2 colors

Here is summer in white

and there is a lot more, first floor of the museum is full of it.
When I get feedback like that, I’m humbled
“Лиля, привет! С посылкой все нормально. немного помятая, работы целые. Скажу больше. Мне как - то не ловко за свои работы. Очень бисерная вязка.Ты умница!!! Мне очень приятно от нашего знакомства. Знаешь: ты наверное меня еще многому можешь научить. Я не могу подобрать слов,чтобы описать свои впечатления по поводу твоих работ. белый платок просто вызывает восхищение. А серый палантин : он по плотности вязание крупнее моей вязки. Белый же плотнее моей. в общем я в шоке хорошем и добром , положительном шоке. МОЛОДЕЦ!!!!!!!”

 they put my stuff in masters category. in glass case.
this shawl is 1/4 of Russian Empire. My mother does not like Order of St. George as much as softer cranes version.
Russian empire has Russian royalty regalia and Russian military Orders and medals coded on it.

When Valentina Fedorova is asking to have photo of my work, I’m humbled.
Valentina Fedorova and Roza Gumerova  were the speakers at the exhibition opening

We do not have all the photos all together. but there are some on internet to see, for example doll collection. I did send these dolls from USA and they got new outfits :)
this and more. there is over dozen of them.

Here is a little work video. lace makers get cuts doing household tasks just like everyone else.
Knitting speed falls in this case. there are some kinds of tape that make it more manageable. 'New skin' aka bf6 I do not like that much as it does not stop bleeding and it can end up on white which is not good.
Shawl in the video in work is Cranes. It's 1/4 of Russian Empire. So that's a bit of an answer to the question how do  I knit something like that.

Hand spun yarn and yarn winder

In this post there is some hand spun yarn
Here is the same yarn plied. With high speed yarn winder it turns out that the ball core (necessary for goat down yarn not only to the ball from collapsing, but to set the yarn also) should be different in comparison to smaller yarn winder (where paper towl roll core works if some elastic is added to the ball winder bobbin so the core does not slip when the yarn is wound)

the ball will be lover on the core. the core is constructed of 2 pieces of paper towel core cut in the middle (length wise) and taped a little at the top so it does not fall off.
When the ball is done I pulled the cut pieces back together and have moved the ball gently and carefully about  1.5cm from the core bottom.

this much. the core is positioned like it was wound.
Now, stabilizing the leader:

and the core of the ball close up

when all set and done, I moved the sides of the core wider so the ball is tighter from the inside and taped them carefully so I do not disturb the ball itself.
Ito the wet baby blanket it goes to set (I do not use wet hot set in our dry climate, my grandma did not use the hot set for goat down yarn either, we just used longer set time).
Traditionally a different kind of round bobbin is used to wind the yarn (basically a piece of carton, a circle and one will wind the yarn on it by hand, white or like above non colored paper or carton, ink is not your friend in the wet yarn set situation).
I did similar set with the ball winder, seems to work fine. however I do like nostepine (well... I just use that paper towel roll as is) type of winding somewhat better. This particular yarn winder does make not so tight ball on the edges, less tight that I like personaly.

It is about 1/2 of the spun yarn plied.

Spin, play dolls, try some shawls

I did spin some Orenburg goat down  for several projects.
And I also got a white dress for 18'' America girl and alike  like doll. Made in China, but surprisingly ok sewing job, seams are finished with the serger. It is bit tight fit on AG so, and I wonder if it will fit looser on a different 18'' doll, AG are somewhat wider.

So some of this yarn will become doll shawl sampler, and some will be Fleur de Grace series r another one... I'm still deciding, did not ply the yarn yet as you can see from the photos below.
so let us begin:

what do we have here from left to right... silk to ply with, plastic N6 container (not goot for cooking but good for spinning rig part), 2 holiday boxes, bottom row as 21cm Orenburg spindles with down singles, 2 30cm spindles have down single and silk (upper left corner) reeled, last spindle on the right also has Orenburg goat down single, but it spun thicker than the other fiber in the photos and the intention of this is thicker doll item, as you can see there is not a lot spun for this separate project. Lighter gray down - more than one project and I have more of this color to spin, so there is no shortage of yarn in the house if I need more, I'll spin more, that was my weekend work and some during the week.
Plying... one can ply directly single and silk on the wheel , there are tips and tricks to it to avoing the doawn single "runns" over silk and bacicaly creating not desirable art yarn type an effect, not desirable in the shawl that is, i would make not exactly desirable yarn for the particular application, for some other project that type of yarn is quite usable, but that's not what I'm making.
Rigs: want to avoid "running" over silk, reel the 2 together and make it nice and tight.
One can do it like so

that's wher first holiday container becomes useful. Another way of controlling the spindle with the singles is this

taller plastic container (or glass or ceramic)

if one decides to use wheel and ply of the spindle this way, positioning the spindle like so may help

that's where the second holiday container becomes useful, one can attach a small elastic band to keep the top from rolling around too much.

Now.. the yarn when it will become some shawls will add to this set. I did play with white dress and different shawls and different looks a little bit. Learning my doll model. I do not know what is this exact doll, but will find out some time, so she does not have a name yet

Simple shapes colored

In simple shapes I have a curved shawl
Here is the gradient look (tester Taulin)

so it's coming and the pattern lays with Aade long 1/8, Kauni, Yarn place Graceful, Zuberball and some others produce similar long gradients. Adult shawl takes about 550m of yarn. The matching shawl for an American girl 18'' (45cm) doll  is in 120m range, so shorter gradient yarns can be used there to produce the similar effect.

Doll shawl Fleur De Grace

This doll shawl fits 18'' (45.5cm) dolls like American girl.
The shawl is the second sample shawl for Fleur De grace shawlette
The first sample is made for 15'' dolls, the second - 18'' dolls.
First sampler starts with 12 teeth ribbon, the second with 15 teeth ribbon. Both teach the method of construction, make a nice useful swatch and/or use the leftover yarn (the pattern needs 2 skeins of cascade yarn alpaca lace for example).
Adult shawl

and 18'' doll sampler on American girl doll.

 

The shapes of both shawls blocked

Golden fleece part 3

the part of the fleece, small part of the fleece that was in the basket

the yarn on the left is 20/2 nm wool I used as ST break

it's a soft spun yarn, I did not spin it to the point of dog hair thick, the fiber spins to that point fine, the length as one can see from the prepared locks shot allows to go 3-4 fibers thick. This yarn is spun thicker intentionally, good old gossamer yarn. Then it blooms, it will look thicker, that's the hope at least.


the distraction did grow some thanks to discount stores and craigslist. Thomas trains are sooooooo outrageously expensive retail, they should not cost that bad as $10 for a small train and $40 for some painted square building. Supply demand and hit entertainment fees I guess have to do something with it. The production of these in China can not justify such very high price alone (they are not hand painted or anything of that sort). But they keep some remaining value so when the kiddo is done with them another kiddo will get to play at the discounted price. Pass on the savings.

it turns out that couple sets from Ross pay off to start because it;s hard to believe that this layout was in $30 range new plus 15 on craigslist and lucky thrift store trip for plastic takealong

flexible collapsible bridge was from discount store, not super lucky purchase, but a lot better than $80 retail.

after couple of days of banging the bridge... not the best place to put it in the first place... and couple disconnected flex track pieces on a flexible track (thank you craigs list purchase... $18 retail is kind of steep for 2 pieces of track made of wood and metal wire, but flexibility seems to cost I guess).

the way the logistics work, mama get up earlier, makes a layout

so then I have time to do this kind of cooking which requires some attention

or this kind of silk winding that is not quite child friendly due to how fine the yarn is,..

the silk is same silk plied with white wool. turned out I could not buy this kind of silk coned, only hanks. I'd pay for connig, but they just would not cone that kind of silk... it;s not a 2-ply silk, it;s a filament single.

update: measured 2300m rounded to meter. 63gr. 2-ply yarn