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Monday, July 23, 2012

Golden fleece part 3

the part of the fleece, small part of the fleece that was in the basket

the yarn on the left is 20/2 nm wool I used as ST break

it's a soft spun yarn, I did not spin it to the point of dog hair thick, the fiber spins to that point fine, the length as one can see from the prepared locks shot allows to go 3-4 fibers thick. This yarn is spun thicker intentionally, good old gossamer yarn. Then it blooms, it will look thicker, that's the hope at least.

the distraction did grow some thanks to discount stores and craigslist. Thomas trains are sooooooo outrageously expensive retail, they should not cost that bad as $10 for a small train and $40 for some painted square building. Supply demand and hit entertainment fees I guess have to do something with it. The production of these in China can not justify such very high price alone (they are not hand painted or anything of that sort). But they keep some remaining value so when the kiddo is done with them another kiddo will get to play at the discounted price. Pass on the savings.

it turns out that couple sets from Ross pay off to start because it;s hard to believe that this layout was in $30 range new plus 15 on craigslist and lucky thrift store trip for plastic takealong

flexible collapsible bridge was from discount store, not super lucky purchase, but a lot better than $80 retail.
after couple of days of banging the bridge... not the best place to put it in the first place... and couple disconnected flex track pieces on a flexible track (thank you craigs list purchase... $18 retail is kind of steep for 2 pieces of track made of wood and metal wire, but flexibility seems to cost I guess).

the way the logistics work, mama get up earlier, makes a layout

so then I have time to do this kind of cooking which requires some attention

or this kind of silk winding that is not quite child friendly due to how fine the yarn is,..
the silk is same silk plied with white wool. turned out I could not buy this kind of silk coned, only hanks. I'd pay for connig, but they just would not cone that kind of silk... it;s not a 2-ply silk, it;s a filament single.

update: measured 2300m rounded to meter. 63gr. 2-ply yarn


  1. Beautiful!
    I have some quiviut fiber that I would like to spin the Orenburg way, that is plied with silk. Only I am not sure of the fineness of the silk or where I can get it, can you help with some info in this please? Like the stuff you are winding in this post.

  2. If you happen to have extra long quiviut you may try. meaning 5cm+ which I never came across before. Some salesman do advertise quiviut as Orenburg goat down substitute specifically for gossamers. It is not quite right material for the job. Locals on both sides of the ocean believe so and I'd trust the folk who did grow with the tradition for generations over a fiber sales person. For one reason: In Orenburg while preparing the fiber for gossamers the short fiber is discarded during combing. That's 3cm and under easy during first combing, for gossamer the fiber is combed trice. That's the length of quiviet, bison etc short luxury fibers. Alaskan locals go with 100% quiviut lace weight for a very good reason - it works in the garment. Trust them when you work with their fiber.
    If you want Orenburg yarn, work with their fiber. History has spoken - no exact substitute is found for over 300 years. If you want silk-down 2-ply for reasonable price tag to it go with baby alpaca that is in 15 micron, fine Merino (Australian 13-15 micron), fine wools up to 18 micron, avoid optium fiber so, it's not a good choice for the job, you will be better off with that fiber for the job versus quiviut. Because you need 2 things: halo and strength. With short fibers plied with silk there is not enough balance and strength in the yarn to produce halo and sustain tight lace blocking. Short cashmere from Mongolia from over-grazed fields is not your friend either, the quality of the fiber decreased dramatically. Look at the commercial 60/2 cashmere yarns they do not halo or produce tiny bit of halo, that fiber is to short and fragile to be spun into Orenburg yarn and produce same halo and be worn for 25 years as a garment, too much processing it went through to put it simple.

    Stuff wound in this post is filament silk. One e-seller sold that for quite a premium price. One time deal, I bough enough to last me a long time.
    If you want to work with quiviut and spin it tighter I'd look for 120/2 silk as a pair, I'd aim for 20/2 lace yarn in the end. Look online in stores that caret weavers, that's a good place to find this kind of silk. Quiviet is short to do what is shown here on longer fine wool.